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“Smaller Guilds Buffed in Cataclysm” or “10 vs. 25”

EDIT: A larger discussion on the upcoming raid changes can be found here.

Blizzard today shared some truly stunning news regarding the way 10-man and 25-man dungeons will perform in World of Warcraft’s Cataclysm expansion. Ready? The loot tables for raid lockout ID’s for 10-mans and 25-mans will be the same.

This is undoubtedly one of the biggest changes since 10-man and 25-man dungeons were introduced. It effectively implies that smaller guilds will no longer have to feel like they are engaging inferior content for inferior loot because they cannot muster the numbers for a larger 25-man team. In addition, the 25-man guilds will not be able to farm the 10-man content as well, since the raid lockout ID will be the same.
Blizzard has essentially taken steps to ensure the smaller guilds can play and compete on an equal footing with some of the larger guilds in WoW.

To summarize some of the key points in the announcement:
  1. 10-man and 25-man will be comparable in difficulty.
  2. You can choose the difficulty of an encounter (normal or heroic) when you get to the boss.
  3. The initial raids in Cataclysm will be designed to be tackled by players in Cataclysm dungeon blues and crafted gear.
  4. Most importantly, 10-man and 25-man instances will drop the same exact loot, and share the same lock out. The only difference is that if the 10-man drops 2 items from a boss, the 25-man will drop 5 items from the same boss to keep loot distribution even.

It’s not April 1st is it?

  1. April 27, 2010 at 1:47 am

    Good change I think.

    Maintaining a roster of 25+ active players was a real chore. You really needed enough redundancy that it didn’t matter if someone didn’t log on – but that meant benching people.

    10 is a much nicer number to maintain.

    It also helps the tank issue. 10 man raids = 2 tank spots, 25 mans = 2-3 tank spots.

  2. Bahaha
    April 27, 2010 at 9:23 am

    ….And so endth the days of WoW……….

    Well, the only good thing is there won’t be so many desperate fat kids out there addicted to the game – – they might go…………. OUTSIDE **

  3. Milamber
    April 27, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    I fully support this change. Managing 10 fucktards is much easier than 25. Plus you’re gonna see a lot more small guilds of real good friends/players getting shit done.

  4. April 27, 2010 at 9:26 pm

    Let’s see if we are really as good as we think (know?) we are. 😀

  1. April 27, 2010 at 9:25 pm
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